The Michael Vick indictment is up at The Smoking Gun. I know this doesn’t mean he’s guilty. I mean, we all know that an indictment does not equal guilt. I learned in my criminal law class that prosecutors could indict Mother Teresa if they wanted, and as a former criminal defense attorney who has seen her share of bogus-ass shit in the criminal justice system, I’m really serious about the whole “innocent until proven guilty” thing. I also try to avoid forming opinions on guilt without having all the facts.
So at this point, all I can really say is that if he is found guilty, I hope that, at a minimum, he never plays in the NFL again. Animal abuse is something that disgusts, upsets, and pisses me off more than just about anything in the world. It’s a cowardly and horrible thing to do and people who abuse animals are pussies of the highest order. It’s one of those things that inspires me to act but at the same time upsets me so much I can’t even stand to hear about it most of the time.
The indictment alleges, among other things, that:
1) Vick’s pal Peace (nice name) shot and killed a dog with a .22;
2) numerous other dogs were shot and killed;
3) numerous dogs were forced to participate in dog fights;
4) a dog who lost a fight was wet with water and electrocuted;
5) more than 10 dog fights were held on Vick’s property;
6) dogs were “tested” for fighting ability and the dogs who didn’t do well were killed by various methods, including hanging, drowning, and being slammed to the ground; and
7) 54 pit bulls, some of whom had what appeared to be fighting-related injuries, were found on Vick’s property, along with a rape stand and other dog fighting paraphernalia.
I just read the whole thing and shit, I don’t have anything else to say.
July 17, 2007 at 9:08 pm
No problem with Michael Vick’s steroid doping and NFL violence though.
Only the dog fighting.
Cruelty to humans is acceptable in our society.
I’ll bet he doped(steroids & stimulants) his 74 dogs too!
Why not?—he dopes himself
July 17, 2007 at 9:11 pm
As bad as the animal abuse is–and it is AWFUL.
The NFL & college Div 1a is 1,000 times more violent!
And 99% of Americans LOVE violence in football.
People just do not GET the fraud that is TV-sports.
ESPN is owned by Disney folks. Get a clue!
ESPN = NFL, MLB, NBA
July 17, 2007 at 9:26 pm
Well, ESPN is a joke. As for the violence in football, don’t you think there’s a difference between football players, who consent to participating in a violent activity and dogs, who are abused and forced into dog fighting and eventually killed?
July 17, 2007 at 11:25 pm
You are wrongly presuming that hero-whorshiping children have good judgment. They don’t. ESPN imagery and adult coaches pressure young teens into steroids, amphetamines and corticoids. (stronger, faster, playing hurt)
Very little difference between a 14 year child scouted by Pat Carrol’s staff at USC (they are scouting 14 years now for Div 1a football) who are told to begin oral steroids after the eight grade and a dog breed and trained to fight. (injections begin by ages 17-18)
Actually—the abuse to the child is worse. They have few choices as they are dumber than a sack of bricks and their single parents LUST after sports, fame and endorsements.
Pit bull = football player, wrestler, etc…
I am a dog owner and dispise creulty to animals—but I hold humans to a higher level.
Sadly ESPN/Disney funds doping in TV sports. (indirectly of course) and their chairmen (George Mitchell is the MLB steroid auditor. (Can you spell conflict of interest?)
Humans who are doped—-are just like these helpless dogs. They have little choice in the equation.
See the paradox here? Certain crimes, violence, doping, cheating, lying, cover ups are accecptable. Others are not.
Go figure. I have no idea why doping children to race bikes, run track, play baseball, swim faster or football is congruent with the Olympic trsadition.
Nike screams: LIVE WRONG! So they all do.
July 18, 2007 at 8:18 am
Hit By A Pitch, I envy your ability to refrain from passing judgement on Vick. I wish I had half your will power, but alas, I do not. I’m guessing that’s why you’re more suited for the legal system, and I am a low life engineer (I like the blog so far too).
Now, as for kids taking steroids and ESPN and Disney somehow tacitly advocated such acts, I must say your logic is slightly flawed Mr Paul Tagliabue, if that is your real name sir. :-) The adults in a child’s life are charged with the task of protecting children, and if one of these individuals are caught doing otherwise, they are punished accordingly. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but that doesn’t mean we somehow define deviancy down by turning a blind eye to lesser offenses and crimes. Yes, kids are molested and brutally murdered, but does that mean we allow other lesser forms of child abuse? Of course not.
The law of the land states that if you are involved in dog fighting–or even chicken fighting for that matter–then you should be punished accordingly. It does not read, as long as you are a super star and were forced to take steroids by your dumb ass high school coach then you are above the law.
Like you said Paul, these little kids need a hero to follow, who better to teach a life lesson than a federal prosecutor taking down a horrible rich person. Lesson learned.
July 18, 2007 at 12:52 pm
Slightly flawed by brutal facts sir, not DeNile a river in Africa and a doping apology emotion.
In the USA alone, between 600,000 to 1,000,000 high school teenagers use steroids today! Most football players and wrestlers commence doping by age 14!
Congress and John McCain know this–and are taking NO ACTION whatsoever against steroids for teens or in ML baseball. Just another big cover up.(eg:blood for oil)
http://www.nsba.org/site/doc_cosa.asp?TRACKID=&DID=32509&CID=164
Adults are involved in doping children, many parents too. Ex-athlete parents especially. If your child is coached by a former NFL, MLB, college athlete—Watch Out. They encourage doping (peer pressure) because parents encourage WINNING!
In America only WINNING counts. And doping is easily denied. Results trump most health considerations.
Doping = peak performances and playing hurt.
Nobody in America gets in trouble for killing animals (dogs, cattle, horse slaughter, poultry, cock fighting, hunting deer, fishing, insects, etc..)
And nobody in the NFL gets convicted of any crime (murder, rape, assault, wife beating, Steroid Road Rage, etc..)
Antonio Bryant, OJ Simpson, Ray Lewis, Bill Romanowski, Barrett Robbins, Dana Stubblefield, Lawrence Taylor, Rae Caruth, Michael Strahan, et al always go free.
America is a land of steroid sports and hypocrisy.
Save our animals, save our children, and ignore the doping and Disney-ABC/ESPN/ NFL, MLB, NBA, WWE apologists.
HolyDog: Never attempt discedit the steroid truth again. Doping is a 50 BILLION+ corporate business.
July 18, 2007 at 12:53 pm
Slightly flawed by brutal facts sir, not DeNile a river in Africa and a doping apology emotion.
In the USA alone, between 600,000 to 1,000,000 high school teenagers use steroids today! Most football players and wrestlers commence doping by age 14!
Congress and John McCain know this–and are taking NO ACTION whatsoever against steroids for teens or in ML baseball. Just another big cover up.(eg:blood for oil)
http://www.nsba.org/site/doc_cosa.asp?TRACKID=&DID=32509&CID=164
Adults are involved in doping children, many parents too. Ex-athlete parents especially. If your child is coached by a former NFL, MLB, college athlete—Watch Out. They encourage doping (peer pressure) because parents encourage WINNING!
In America only WINNING counts. And doping is easily denied. Results trump most health considerations.
Doping = peak performances and playing hurt.
Nobody in America gets in trouble for killing animals (dogs, cattle, horse slaughter, poultry, cock fighting, hunting deer, fishing, insects, etc..)
And nobody in the NFL gets convicted of any crime (murder, rape, assault, wife beating, Steroid Road Rage, etc..)
Antonio Bryant, OJ Simpson, Ray Lewis, Bill Romanowski, Barrett Robbins, Dana Stubblefield, Lawrence Taylor, Rae Caruth, Michael Strahan, et al always go free.
America is a land of steroid sports and hypocrisy.
Save our animals, save our children, and ignore the doping and Disney-ABC/ESPN/ NFL, MLB, NBA, WWE apologists.
HolyDog: Never attempt discedit the steroid truth again. Doping is a 50 BILLION+ corporate business.
July 18, 2007 at 1:12 pm
Paul/Benoit, I have two questions for you.
1. Let’s say that everything you’re saying is true and kids are using steroids. What does that have to do with Michael Vick and dog fighting?
2. What is your argument here? Are you arguing that we shouldn’t care about Michael Vick and dog fighting because kids are doing steroids, violence is everywhere, and athletes get away with criminal acts?
July 18, 2007 at 1:46 pm
Everything. It is the root of the bigger problem.
No doping, less bizarree behavior.
Connect the dots:
wife beating
spousal abuse
assault battery
drunk driving on meth
rape, torture
off-field violence
on field violence
bi-polar dysfunction
haert failure, stroke
suicidal behavior
depression
cruelty to animals (Vick is a tiny example)
cock fighting
dog fighting, torture
NBA Sacto King Ron Artest starved his dogs for weeks(animal control finally took them away after five visits!)
NFL Joey Porter’s pit bull KILLED his neighbor’s pony last year.
Michael Vick is one of hundreds of steroid addicts who mistreat anaimals.
Steroids and creulty go hand in hand.
Do you think one million teens on drugs is good news for society or dogs?
July 18, 2007 at 1:46 pm
Everything. It is the root of the bigger problem.
No doping, less bizarree behavior.
Connect the dots:
wife beating
spousal abuse
assault battery
drunk driving on meth
rape, torture
off-field violence
on field violence
bi-polar dysfunction
haert failure, stroke
suicidal behavior
depression
cruelty to animals (Vick is a tiny example)
cock fighting
dog fighting, torture
NBA Sacto King Ron Artest starved his dogs for weeks(animal control finally took them away after five visits!)
NFL Joey Porter’s pit bull KILLED his neighbor’s pony last year.
Michael Vick is one of hundreds of steroid addicts who mistreat anaimals.
Steroids and creulty go hand in hand.
Do you think one million teens on drugs is good news for society or dogs?
July 18, 2007 at 1:48 pm
Everything. It is the root of the bigger problem.
No doping, less bizarree behavior.
Connect the dots:
wife beating
spousal abuse
assault battery
drunk driving on meth amphetamines
rape, torture
off-field violence
on field violence
bi-polar dysfunction
haert failure, stroke
suicidal behavior
depression
cruelty to animals (Vick is a tiny example)
cock fighting
dog fighting, torture
NBA Sacto King Ron Artest starved his dogs for weeks(animal control finally took them away after five visits!)
NFL Joey Porter’s pit bull KILLED his neighbor’s pony last year.
Michael Vick is one of hundreds of steroid addicts who mistreat anaimals.
Steroids and creulty go hand in hand.
Do you think one million teens on drugs is good news for society or dogs?
ESPN-ABC-Disney and the other TV media (only six) cover up doping in sports and in crimes.
Doping drives crime.
July 18, 2007 at 1:50 pm
Everything. It is the root of the bigger problem.
No doping, less bizarree behavior.
TV Networks make BILLIONS off doped entertainemnt freak shows (Rose Bowl, Super Bowl, Olympics, TDF, WWE, NBA finals, MLB, Barry Bonds, Lance, Nike, etc…)
Connect the dots (drug addicted athletes act out):
wife beating
spousal abuse
assault battery
drunk driving on meth amphetamines
rape, torture
off-field violence
on field violence
bi-polar dysfunction
haert failure, stroke
suicidal behavior
depression
cruelty to animals (Vick is a tiny example)
cock fighting
dog fighting, torture
NBA Sacto King Ron Artest starved his dogs for weeks(animal control finally took them away after five visits!)
NFL Joey Porter’s pit bull KILLED his neighbor’s pony last year.
Michael Vick is one of hundreds of steroid addicts who mistreat anaimals.
Steroids and creulty go hand in hand.
Do you think one million teens on drugs is good news for society or dogs?
ESPN-ABC-Disney and the other TV media (only six) cover up doping in sports and in crimes.
Doping drives crime.
July 18, 2007 at 3:43 pm
Benoit, not that it matters, but if you checked out my blog you’d notice my utter contempt for steroid usage as well. This—as hitbyapitch has said—is not the topic at hand. We all hate steroid usage, especially if it’s a kid taking them, but that doesn’t mean we give “The Vicktim” a free ride.
Eating meat is not against the law so I have no idea what you are talking about when comparing dog fighting and the beef industry. I’m starting to wonder if maybe this is a nice veiled attempt to support Michael Vick by clouding the seriousness of the issue. Are you a Falcons fan? Va Tech fan maybe? You even slipped in a blood for oil comment, which is not easy on a sports blog.
Next time I would suggested maybe using a few more issues like global warming, world hunger, the church and child molestation, cats and dogs… living together!!! Ha, ha, had to get a Ghostbusters reference in there somehow.
Anyway, I hope we can come to some kind of terms and agree that children taking drugs, people eating meat, oil for blood, and yes, even dog fighting is not a good thing. Now, all this talk is making me hungry. I’m going to go get me a big juicy steak. Catch you on the other side ladies and gents. I’ll be sure to drink a cold one for you all and for the children.
July 18, 2007 at 4:06 pm
My heart is filled with enough hatred to cover animal abusers and steroid users, and I would love to find a way to do away with all of them at the same time. Maybe Michael Vick (if he’s guilty, of course) and Barry Bonds, for example, could be covered with The Cream and The Clear and some ribeye and put in a cage with 27 hungry, pissed off dogs pumped full of HGH and steroids. Of course I’m not serious — that would be mean to the dogs.
I missed the “Nobody in America gets in trouble for killing animals” comment earlier. That’s not true, but I’m also not sure I understand the point.
July 18, 2007 at 6:00 pm
Steroid and amphetamine abuse leads to:
1) rape (Kobe Bryant)
2) spousal abuse (Dana Stubblefield, Jason Kid…)
3) battery & assualt (barrett Robbins, Pacman Jones)
4) drunk driving whilst on meth amphetamines (Josh Hancock, Orlando Sepeda, Antonio Bryant)
5) murder (OJ Simpson, Mariet Ford, Rae Caruth)
6) animal abuse (Ron Artest, Joey Porter, Mike Vick)
7) doping drive crime and bizarre behavior
NBA, MLB and NFL athletes ALL take steroids (not just Barry, Marion and Lance)—and that is why crime is a weekly occurance.
It is NOT a character issue–it is a doping overdosing issue.
If ESPN & Nike demand massive steroids—let thme pay for the cost to society–and save our children and animals.
What is not to understand here people? Wake up.
July 18, 2007 at 7:11 pm
What evidence supports your assertion that all NBA, MLB, and NFL athletes take steroids? How many of them regularly use amphetamines — if it’s not all professional athletes, who is it and what evidence supports this?
Let’s see the evidence, and then we can move on to a discussion of how correlation does not imply causation.
July 18, 2007 at 9:43 pm
Oh—you mean the secret steroid injection files. Of course, how silly of me to forget you did NOT read my link on teenage doping. I forgot the wacky pro athlete doping evidence.
The doping dossiers? Which ones? On which doper machine? http://www.ergogenics.org.donati.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/3708036.stm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/04/10/60II/main284958.shtml
http://www.cyclingnews.com/results/archives/dec97/dec1.html
http://www.thinkmuscle.com/articles/hoberman/tour.htm
http://outside.away.com/magazine/0799/9907tour.html
http://www.active.com/story.cfm?story_id=5575
The NFL, MLB, NBA keeps the lid on steroid reporting because the media (ESPN) collects BILLIONS in advertising profits from them.
If I gave you a 100,000 signed confessions—you would ignore them. You are free to believe whatever myths you want. There are mountains of evidence if you ever care to educate yourself. Horse racing is a good beginning. Race horses are doped much like Tour de France riders are. Very similar. The Olympics too.
The drugs in modern sport are wide ranging and are customized to the specific job: The basic drugs everyone uses daily/weekly are:
insulin
exogenous testosterone
hGH
IGF-1
female hormones (Clomid & hCG choroinic gondatropin)
corticosterids (cortisone-based steroids)
theroid steroids
Salbutamol (Asthma steroids)
Pot Belge (liquid amphetamine of coke, morphine, heroin, caffeine)
Prozac, Zoloft, Paxel
Viagra
For Tour de Farce riders: add EPO, saline feeds and cow blood transfusions for the top guys. (bovine-based hemoglobins) (Hemopure, Polyheme, Oxyglobin, Actovegin)
It is very easy to deny, discredit or ignore ubiquitous crimes like doping. Very lazy too.
You seem to suggest that the highest paid quarterback in the National Football League is a monster.
What legal process have you fast tracked? Vick has NOT been convicted of any crime. And he waltzed free from the old ‘meth amphetmaine hidden in his water bottle act’ at the airport two months ago (no conviction on that either)
Parallel analogy: (dogs, not drugs)
Let me take the ‘alleged’ dog abuse apology position
What evidence do you have that the NFL supports dog fighting? Or that Michael Vick tortured one dog?
Would NOT Roger Goodal (NFL) NOT suspend his $140 MILLION QB if it even ‘appeared’ that he tortured dogs?
Why would a family man ($140 MILLION) waste time with dog fights? He is a model citizen. Clean, no doping.
The NFL has an anti-gambling policy. Vick would forfeit his income stream if he gambled, no? Why would he gamble?
All the leagues have anti-doping policies–therefore no doping is possible, yes?
ESPN pays BILLIONS into these family-braanded sports—why would they employ a dog abuser? They could never be that stupid, no?
The NFL will support Michael Vick, his right to bet on dog fights with expensive lawyers and media cover stories. BECAUSE it is in their financial interest to do so.
Same as doping. The NFL denies doping and discredits anyone who suggests that the league is drug infested.
Bottomline:
Doping is ubiquitous in all sports. And dog fighting and animal abuse is commonplace in the NFL and NBA.
I do not apologize for understanding steroids and Polypharmacy in sports. I know waht I know.
The TV Networks make BILLIONS ($50+) on this crime.
Michael Vick is role model for children–like Tom Brady is. He would NEVER takes drugs are fight dogs.
Remember as Lance says; where the is smoke and lots of people standing around talking about the smoke–there CANNOT be a fire. Sage advice from Nike.
July 18, 2007 at 9:45 pm
Oh—you mean the secret steroid injection files. Of course, how silly of me to forget you did NOT read my link on teenage doping. I forgot the wacky pro athlete doping evidence.
The doping dossiers? Which ones? On which doper machine? http://www.ergogenics.org.donati.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/3708036.stm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/04/10/60II/main284958.shtml
http://www.cyclingnews.com/results/archives/dec97/dec1.html
http://www.thinkmuscle.com/articles/hoberman/tour.htm
http://outside.away.com/magazine/0799/9907tour.html
http://www.active.com/story.cfm?story_id=5575
The NFL, MLB, NBA keeps the lid on steroid reporting because the media (ESPN) collects BILLIONS in advertising profits from them.
If I gave you a 100,000 signed confessions—you would ignore them. You are free to believe whatever myths you want. There are mountains of evidence if you ever care to educate yourself. Horse racing is a good beginning. Race horses are doped much like Tour de France riders are. Very similar. The Olympics too.
The drugs in modern sport are wide ranging and are customized to the specific job: The basic drugs everyone uses daily/weekly are:
insulin
exogenous testosterone
hGH
IGF-1
female hormones (Clomid & hCG choroinic gondatropin)
corticosterids (cortisone-based steroids)
theroid steroids
Salbutamol (Asthma steroids)
Pot Belge (liquid amphetamine of coke, morphine, heroin, caffeine)
Prozac, Zoloft, Paxel
Viagra
For Tour de Farce riders: add EPO, saline feeds and cow blood transfusions for the top guys. (bovine-based hemoglobins) (Hemopure, Polyheme, Oxyglobin, Actovegin)
It is very easy to deny, discredit or ignore ubiquitous crimes like doping. Very lazy too.
You seem to suggest that the highest paid quarterback in the National Football League is a monster.
What legal process have you fast tracked? Vick has NOT been convicted of any crime. And he waltzed free from the old ‘meth amphetmaine hidden in his water bottle act’ at the airport two months ago (no conviction on that either)
Parallel analogy: (dogs, not drugs)
Let me take the ‘alleged’ dog abuse apology position
What evidence do you have that the NFL supports dog fighting? Or that Michael Vick tortured one dog?
Would NOT Roger Goodal (NFL) NOT suspend his $140 MILLION QB if it even ‘appeared’ that he tortured dogs?
Why would a family man ($140 MILLION) waste time with dog fights? He is a model citizen. Clean, no doping.
The NFL has an anti-gambling policy. Vick would forfeit his income stream if he gambled, no? Why would he gamble?
All the leagues have anti-doping policies–therefore no doping is possible, yes?
ESPN pays BILLIONS into these family-braanded sports—why would they employ a dog abuser? They could never be that stupid, no?
The NFL will support Michael Vick, his right to bet on dog fights with expensive lawyers and media cover stories. BECAUSE it is in their financial interest to do so.
Same as doping. The NFL denies doping and discredits anyone who suggests that the league is drug infested.
Bottomline:
Doping is ubiquitous in all sports. And dog fighting and animal abuse is commonplace in the NFL and NBA.
I do not apologize for understanding steroids and Polypharmacy in sports. I know waht I know.
The TV Networks make BILLIONS ($50+) on this crime.
Michael Vick is role model for children–like Tom Brady is. He would NEVER takes drugs are fight dogs.
Remember as Lance says; where the is smoke and lots of people standing around talking about the smoke–there CANNOT be a fire. Sage advice from Nike.
July 19, 2007 at 8:49 am
Personal knowledge.
July 19, 2007 at 10:44 am
I refuse to go line by line with your laundry list of how steroids “forced” all those people to commit crimes, but one that does stand out deserves mention. O.J. Simpson killed two human beings (regardless of the outcome of that trial), and somehow it’s because he took steroids? Did the motion picture association of America make him take steroids for his movie roles, because he was like 15 years removed from sports?
Oh, and when is the governor of California going to murder a couple people since he probably took more than anyone in the history of steroids? You see, you’re not the only one with worthless anecdotal data.
Come on, this is just a sad excuse used by a bunch of terribly spoiled rich brats that commit awful crimes against humanity. Take some damn responsibility for your actions for once, please. Just because you were dumb enough to take them and maybe got into trouble with the law (mostly because everything has been handed to you on a silver platter because you won the gene pool lottery of life) and your lawyer cooked up this great defense, that doesn’t mean we normal people have to buy it.
Several of my friends and even a close family member offered me drugs when I was a very young teen and you don’t see me blaming them for something I’ve done wrong in my life. Be a f**king man, shut up, and take your medicine and responsibility for your actions, please.
Let me say this for the last time, Michael Vick abused animals and should be put on trial for said acts. If found guilty he should go to prison. What part of this should not happen and why? Save your “it’s the steroids and oh poor millionaire Vick” speech for someone who gives a shit!
July 19, 2007 at 2:18 pm
Now your thinking. Finally.
And you thought dog torture was evil.
Before OJ Simpson we had double murderer Mariet Timothy Ford. He did not get the TV time.
Remember the 1982 Cal/Stanford Game? ‘The Play’ Multiple lateral after time expired ended with Mariet Ford scoring a TD and crashing into a Stanford trombone player. It was a college football miracle.
After his Cal Berkeley steroid program he advanced into the Canadian Football League for seven more years of doping.
He then murdered his pregnant wife and son Mariet, Jr.
Ford is now serving life in state prison in California.
Last week we had the Benoit Joachim murders. See a pattern here? Is the earth flat enough?
Every week we have steroid & Polypharmacy driven roid rage crimes. Tony LaRussa, Josh Hancock, Steve Howe, Doc Gooden, Daryl Strawberry, Orlando Cepeda, Vida Blue, Antonio Bryant, Maurice Clarett, Lawrence Taylor, Pacman Jones, Joey Porter, Barrett Robbins, Dana Stubblefield, Bill Romanowski, Jose Canseco.
The media is busy 24/7 covering up the weekly abuses and has convinced you that ‘charactor is to blame’.
WRONG! Doping is to blame. Massive high levels of daily doping. the giv did not compete on an NFL level of toxic doping—but Arnold too had many issues with poor behavior.
Media Celebrity imagery is powerful.
Dog fighting, rape, assault, murder, torture, drunk driving, gambling and empty denial are all behaviors that go with doping.
July 19, 2007 at 3:02 pm
Are you saying that Tony La Russa’s DUI was the result of steroids?
Why aren’t more athletes committing crimes?
Also, do you mean Chris Benoit murders? I’d hate to drag some poor cyclist from Luxembourg into that discussion.
July 19, 2007 at 4:03 pm
LaRussa is around steroids,corticoids and amphetamines 24/7. (Canseco, McGwire, Parker, Welch, Phillips, Erkersley, Stewart, Hancock) And Tony likes to drink & drive too. His silly ARF mask may fool some people–but not everyone. Just like Mr LIVE WRONG!
Charity is a standard mask for dopers.
Thousands are commiting crimes. Read the newpaper. And thousands more crimes and DUEs go unreported too.
The police went out to OJ Simpson’s house 21 times for spousal abuse on two wives. Only one time did they write up a report and one other time for a double homicide.
Dana Stubblefield, Rod Martin, Jason Kiddd, Ron Artest, Michael Strahan, Lawrence Taylor all had wife battery charges leveled against them.
If you have ever lived in a neighborhood with a pro athelete—-you hear cars coming and going all night. Nobody parties at 3:30 am w.o drugs.
July 19, 2007 at 4:08 pm
Benoit Joachim tested positive for Nandrolone (Deca Durabolin) in June 2000. But Lance Pharmstrong kept Benoit on his winning TDF team that July.
In October—when the steroid news finally leaked out–after the season had ended, Mark Gorski USPO officially sacked Joachim siting the USPO ZERO tolerence policy.
Six months later, Benoit was quielty reinstated and rode in the 2002 USPO squad.
Doping hypocrisy runs deep in both Luxemburg and Texas.
btw: Benoit is in this year’s race as well.
July 19, 2007 at 4:10 pm
“LaRussa is around steroids,corticoids and amphetamines 24/7.”
Being around steroids and amphetamines is enough to result in crime? You don’t have to actually take them?
July 20, 2007 at 7:13 am
Okay, I’m give up! It’s been fun, but now I’m starting to believe this kid isn’t really reading anything we’re writing (or at least not sharp enough to process it) and just enjoys cutting and pasting out off of another website about this crap (which by the way, that’s what he’s doing). Also, please learn how to only post each comment once.
It’s actually starting to piss me off to think someone is dumb/gullible enough to believe sports stars aren’t 100% to blame for their actions. He’s fallen right into the hands of the 10% of the thugs in sports committing these acts.
I’m assuming one of two things has happened: This kid took steroids and still sucked at sports (I really think this is the case), or was jumped in High School or in his neighborhood by a bunch of “jocks” going through roid rage.
Either way, if we get back to talking about abusing animals and punishing people for said acts regardless of how “Disney World” forced them to, then let me know.
July 20, 2007 at 4:56 pm
Wake up people. Steroid overdoses kill animals, wives, and promote stroke, heart failure, Cancer, drinking.
Doping = dopey behavor
But if you insitst on ‘character issue apoplogies’ to make you feel better. Go on. Here are other myths:
“work ethic wins the TDF”
“The world is flat”
“Tony LaRussa is a ARF supporter who could never advocate steroids nor drinking”
“Nike swooshes are cool”
“The NFL is a clean sport funded by Disney-ESPN”
“College football features student atheltes”
“Dog fighting is the only violence worth caring about as abused children athletes are irrelevant”
“There is NO correlation between doping, addiction and crime” None, zippo.
July 24, 2007 at 3:44 pm
Violence against animals, violence against humans, violence, period, is horrible. Anyone who condones violence is a horrible person. Killing and attacking for the fun of it is sick. Dismissal from the NFL for Michael Vick and dismissal WITHOUT pay is the only way the NFL can redeem itself. And all of the sponsers should back away from Michael Vick, also. These animals were brutally tortured, he was aware of this and advocated this brutality. He’s outta my league, the NFL league.